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of technology of reengaging the public to see something and say something. better intelligence or take a better look at what local law enforcement is seeing. this was my worst nightmare. who didn't have a prior criminal record. someone that got radicalized without a footprint and dame out of nowhere. components for the bomb can be bought at a local store. >> heather: is this something we should see from now on and how do we protect ourselves without becoming a police state? >> the 9/11 cut off the head of al-qaeda. the ability to do the same type of attack is really over. this is what they have to go to now. the challenge is how do you know when someone is radicalized? the key is in talking with commissioner kelly and his team, they switch up everything. it's not about static security. you don't have people that do the same type of patrols. you mix it up. >> heather: flexibility? >> also you use different type of technology. facial recognition is not where it ought to be. cameras are after the event but we need that kind of technology pro-active. the other key is not sit back and say we have to
. that image is so, so clear. really incredible technology. the victim of an alleged carjacking by the way is now talking and what he is saying might give us a glimpse of the motive here. now he was driving a mercedes suv, the owner of that suv. says he was forced to drive to watertown at gunpoint. claims the brothers told him quote, they were the boston marathon bombers and would not kill him because he was not american. well the victim escaped apparently. earlier we are told he was let go. but apparently he escaped at a nearby gas station and called 911. that is where police got hot on their trail at that point, martha. martha: investigators are looking into possible radicalization of these suspects trying to figure out how they got to this point. they're turning their attention overseas in this hunt. here is congressman michael mccaul, chairman of the house homeland security committee on this. listen. >> you can't understand this case until you understand where they came from is chechnya. the chechen rebels are some of the fiercest jihadist warriors out there. they have a relationship a
and the technology used by law enforcement to take tsarnaev into custody. night vision cameras spotted him hiding in a boat. and flash-bang grenades were used to stun and disorient him. all this while the city of boston prepares to say good-bye to one of the victims. krystle campbell. she's one of three people who died in last monday's marathon attack. joining us right now is boston's police commissioner. he has been right in the middle of this all. ed davis, thank you so much for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> good morning. >> commissioner, what can you tell me about dzhokhar tsarnaev's condition right now? >> he's in serious but stable condition at the beth israel hospital. we have officers who are guarding him. he -- he's progressing at this point. >> you say he is progressing. is he communicating with investigators right now? >> those -- there have been widely published reports that he is. i wouldn't dispute that but i don't have any specific information on that myself. >> you say you wouldn't dispute that. of course we understand he's been sedated, intubated. has he been able to comm
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